We are still novices in the field of domestic discipline, and most of what we first learned was from Kay’s website and her writings.
The thought of meeting with Kay and Jerry was something beyond our normal experience. In retrospect, meeting another man who is spanked is also interesting, as to what he thinks about the situation. We were made aware in the conversation about how their spanking relationship started, but I do not feel at liberty to discuss this without Kay and Jerry’s approval.
We arranged to have dinner at a neutral meeting ground, a restaurant within the vicinity of where they live. We had not exchanged pictures, because everyone’s privacy is very important.
Although Kay knew our personal address from my purchase orders and writing to her from my normal email, we still didn't know each other. So with some trepidation of how the evening would unfold, we went to dinner.
We arrived early and waited outside the restaurant. I was dressed as I had stated in my email, and basically we looked inquisitively as people walked up and entered the restaurant.
After a short while, Kay’s partner said hello, you must be “MIKE’, and we introduced each other. They had parked in the lot and entered the restaurant as most people did from the parking lot.
Being very nervous, I must confess that I somewhat dominated the conversation, hopefully not badly or impolitely. My explanation is that I simply wanted to assure Kay and her partner that we were ‘real people’, who also had an interest in the DWC lifestyle. Jerry and I had a glass of wine, and the dinner progressed. We talked about Lynn and our family, but I did not ask any questions about their family. Kay explained that they have met many people in the lifestyle, and that it is always a little awkward the first time.
Some people they have met were simply too far in the extreme to fit into the DWC lifestyle approach. Some have been met at parties, and some people in the California spanking scene now know who she is. From reading Dana Specht’s website, I was aware that Kay has been a guest of honor at a retreat on the west coast, but we are too shy to consider attending them.
Very little mention of the lifestyle occurred during the dinner, as other people were near-by in the restaurant, and you never know when a waiter might pop-up. Kay did very directly look me in the eye and ask me at one time if I had been behaving myself properly during our vacation, and I responded generally yes, but being male, I have not been prefect. No further mention was made on the topic, and the dinner went smoothly.
Both Lynn and I found it awkward, not really getting to know Kay and Jerry, being reluctant to ask about their jobs or family. Before we were offered coffee, Kay invited us to come back to their house for coffee and dessert, where we could talk more openly. Lynn and I both looked at each other and nodded, before agreeing to this very generous offer.
Kay and Jerry live in a very beautiful house, which we arrived at after following them in our car. Where they live is obviously not a topic I would ever discuss anywhere, and practically, I doubt if I could ever find it again.
Dessert at Kay’s house was delicious, as we talked about the DWC lifestyle. Kay explained how she first got started spanking Jerry. She later explained that she started the DWC website to help others become knowledgeable and confident in applying the principles, and the spankings, of a DWC lifestyle.
Kay then proceeded to take out her goody bag of spanking implements, and she lead a discussion of how these are effectively used.
Prior to ever asking, let alone arranging a meeting with Kay and Jerry, Lynn had reasonably asked why I would like to meet her. My only response was that maybe we could obtain more information from actually talking with Kay, and seeing that a real live person actually professed and possibly lived these opinions. We would see that Kay actually existed, and that this was not simply a website trying to sucker in spanking enthusiasts for profit.
After agreeing that we would meet Kay, I ventured the question: would Lynn allow Kay to spank me if she saw fit. This was and still is dangerous ground. I did not want Lynn to feel inferior or inadequate in her spanking me, because Lynn is darned good at spanking me. Yet at the same time I was hoping Lynn would see that she could more fully release her feelings and emotions when spanking me. Lynn spanks very effectively, but lets up when the spanking has me yowling or kicking my feet. I love Lynn, but being spanked by another woman is a huge step. My only explanation is that I have always wondered what a “BAD BOY SPANKING” from Kay would be like, ever since seeing her website. Maybe it would prove to be the same as Lynn’s spankings, or maybe we both would learn a little more about spankings. Lynn and I have never seen another person being spanked, except on video, which in my opinion is staged, and thus artificial. I desired to experience a “BAD BOY SPANKING”, yet dreaded it at the same time.
After discussing for a few days, Lynn agreed that we should meet Aunt Kay if possible, and that if I wanted to be spanked, she would watch it done. (This was assuming Kay would in any way want to demonstrate a spanking on me, and that we would feel compatible enough, and that Kay was a sensible caring person.)
Kay asked Lynn and I if we were willing that she demonstrate how to effectively use some of these implements on me. When we responded yes, Jerry was excused from the room.
I had worn silk underwear (not jockey style), in case of this eventuality. Kay had me stand by the couch, lower my pants only to the floor, and bend at the waist, supporting myself with my hands (arms straight). [Thus, my upper body was at a right angle, with my bottom sticking outwards.]
I have no recollection of how many spanking tools were demonstrated, however, the number might be as many as eight or nine implements. This was to be a participatory spanking. Kay would first explain the effectiveness of an implement, and then demonstrate how to use it on my bottom. Lynn would then get to try it out on my bottom also, before we moved on to another implement.
I do remember that the Ferule and the Dominator from Kay’s website were used, besides a lexan paddle, and a cane. While standing relaxed by my side, Kay applied with the snap of the wrist and speed of the arm a significantly strong six spanks with each implement. The spanks were given rapid fire, such that my knees would buckle a little with some implements. Kay stopped immediately whenever my knees buckled a little. However, after a little more explanation of how to use the implement, it was Lynn’s turn to repeat the spanking so that Lynn would have a feel for using the implement.
Kay constantly monitored my condition, repeatedly asking if I was okay, before proceeding to the next implement. Kay stopped immediately whenever a knee started to buckle, showing that I was receiving the message. In addition, if an implement did not seem to be effective when Kay used it, a second set of six was given after a few words, until Kay saw the intended reaction on my part.
I found the four items mentioned (ferule, dominator, lexan paddle, and cane) to be significantly attention getting, and effective.
Special attention was given on how to use the cane, with both the arm movement and the aim. Lynn then applied the cane timidly, so Kay demonstrated again how to use it with snap and for maximum effect. Lynn next efforts were very effective. Kay's summary review using the cane one extra time with a flourish was definitely attention getting.
After the cane, the spanking was ended. My thoughts were confused, but my bottom was a very bright red and certainly felt well spanked.
Kay left Lynn and I alone for a few moments, and then she and Jerry rejoined us. A little more discussion ensued, and we departed promising to get together sometime in the future. We thanked Kay for her kind attention and instruction. Jerry very graciously drove ahead of us, to help us get back to a highway that we knew, so that we could return to our hotel in San Francisco. Lynn and I did not really talk about the evening, being somewhat overwhelmed by the experience. We both did say how kind and friendly Kay and Jerry were with us. They will become friends.
I wrote to Kay when we returned to Vancouver as follows:
“We thank you for the personal guidance that you gave to us. Lynn is learning to be more assertive, and I am certain she has learned that she can spank as hard as she wants as long as she wants, after your personal attention with so many different implements.
I am uncertain if you would call what was demonstrated a bad boy spanking, because you showed great concern that I was alright as you moved from one implement to another. In addition, as you used several implements, you showed how to use them, but stopped whenever I started to show that I was receiving the message. My interpretation of your guidelines is that these spanks were the beginning part of a spanking to get the person's attention, before you continue with the second set of four, followed by forty to fifty non-stop hard spanks. I imagine that a bad boy spanking would have been much more significant. My trepidation when you gave the opening of how my behavior had been was regrettable. Personally, I think both Lynn and I would have benefited from a simple bad boy spanking. Please realize that our paths may or may not ever cross again, and if given the opportunity, I probably will meekly say that it is not needed, when I really meant to say "YES, IT IS NEEDED!!!"
Whether any future meeting involves spanking, we would be pleased to meet again whenever the opportunity prevails.
Lastly, please thank Jerry once again for so graciously showing the way for us to drive home. And you do have a most beautiful home, and the location is absolutely fabulous.)
Hope both you and Jerry are healthy and happy.
Bottoms Up,
Mike and Lynn